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“The anthropomorphic language has been frowned upon in biology for a hundred years…and I think it’s because it’s the only way to understand it,” says Perry Marshall.

Press play to learn more about his compelling view of cancer and discover:

  • How Perry’s understanding of cancer might explain why stage four cancers are almost always impossible to treat
  • Why the neo-Darwinian view of evolution and the inability to accept the idea of cellular cognition are major roadblocks to finding a cure for cancer
  • What consequences result from the resistance to change in the medical industry

While the idea that cancer is a genetic disease resulting from random DNA damage which triggers endless cell proliferation may be true, Perry Marshall doesn’t think it gets to the essence of what cancer really is.

According to him, cancer is when the cells of the body lose their identity and begin evolving or speciating out of control.

Marshall says that when the simple laws of physics and chemistry are insufficient to explain everything that happens in the biological world, it leaves a giant elephant in the room that no one knows how to deal with. And in part, this could be why so many scientists, researchers, and doctors still fail to consider anything other than a narrow and restricted definition of cancer, cellular life, and evolution.

“I think there are a lot of people who just don’t want to understand it, or if it raises questions that blow [their] mind, then [they] just don’t want to think about it,” says Marshall.

He discusses James Shapiro’s paper titled, “All Living Cells Are Cognitive”, in which Shapiro argues that, quite literally, ALL cells have cognition; they can also get stressed out, and then they do, they begin manifesting different behaviors until reaching a tipping point when they forget who they are.

And the result? Cancer.

“Whether you’re watching football players chase each other around the football field, or your dog chase a rabbit , or a YouTube video of white blood cells chasing germs, it all kind of looks the same…it is the same intentional behavior happening on radically different scales…” he says.

Press play for the details of all this and much more.

To contribute to the search for a cancer cure, visit, and if you’re interested in earning $10 million, visit Also, be sure to check out Marshall’s book, Evolution 2.0: Breaking the Deadlock Between Darwin and Design.

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